After a heated debate about evolution and creationism I once told my housemate "never let me marry Eleanor Matthews". If you know me at all, the irony will not be lost on you. I've now been dating said Eleanor Matthews for nearly ten months. I kind of regret saying that now.
Me and Ellie were brought up in very different traditions of Christianity. These days I prefer to avoid the labels, but if it helps she came from quite a 'Conservative Evangelical' background. My background is typically more 'Charismatic'. Before I got to know people who thought differently to me, I pretty much thought they were wrong. That they didn't have much to offer, and that I did things the 'right way round'. They were loopy conservatives who took the Bible too literally, thought the holy spirit was dead and stood on street corners condemning people to hell.
There's such an arrogance in that. For years, I have sat comfortably in my own opinions, read books by people I agreed with, listened to talks from people that from the same school of thinking as me. And pretty much all that does is confirms your own thinking. It narrows your mind. I had been so caught up in 'Christianity as told by Josh Cockayne' that I had little room for the opinions of a girl with something vastly different to say.
The problem with that is that you close yourself off to anything valuable that other people, and other schools of thinking have to offer. It's so easy to scoff, to criticise, to pick holes in people's theology. It's easy to say that Conservative Christians are nutjobs and that Charismatics are wet and spineless. It's so easy to spend all of our time squabbling over the right way to do things, and the right way to read this passage. What's difficult, and what I'm trying to learn to do more and more is to recognise the good that people have to offer. To take my head from out of my own bum and allow myself to try learning from people who might be able to teach me something new. It's really hard to break prejudices, opinions that have been lodged for so long. It's hard to see past someone's theology, the way someone reads the Bible and to listen to what they actually have to say.
What I'm not endorsing is unanimous relativism, the thinking that says "everyone is right in their own way". I'm not even saying we shouldn't disagree with people. I just think we could try and understand people a bit better. I know for me, I often judge what someone has to say before they even speak, before I even open the first page of their book. It's valuable to be able to disagree with someone for what they actually have to say. And actually, we might learn something from them. We might actually find they've got a point.
I've learnt a lot since I said "never let me marry Eleanor Matthews". I think we both have. I think I'm still pretty caught up in my own prejudices. I get unreasonably defensive any time I'm challenged. But I think that I'm definitely more open to being taught. At the end of the day, all Conservative Christians are not nutjobs. I still disagree with a lot of what they think, but I have a deep respect for Christians with the consistency to follow through what they believe and what they think God requires of them. I think I can learn a lot from that.
I am wrong quite a lot of the time. I know that. I reckon that most 'breeds', boxes', 'denominations', (whatever you want to call them) of Christianity have flaws in their thinking. I think most of them have plenty wrong with them. I think some are probably closer to 'truth' than others. But importantly, I think we can learn something about God from all of them. The minute that I'm not prepared to listen to what someone else has to say, I've missed out on something vital I could learn from them. At the end of the day, I don't want to be a 'Charismatic Christian', I don't want to be liberal, or evangelical. I want to be able to follow Christ. I don't want to be comfortable in the box I started off in, I don't want to have the same opinions in ten years time as I have now. I want to be in a position to constantly be challenged, be rebuked, be wrong. I want to be in a position to learn from John Piper, Rob Bell, Brian McClaran, John Stott, whoever the next liberal/ conservative pinup boy might be. I'm pretty sure they've all got something to teach me.
I think we'll only gain real maturity in faith when we start to know what we really think about things, what we really believe, when we're able to learn from people who think differently. If we just feed ourselves the same, unchallenging, belief embedding content we've always heard, then I think there's the risk that we stay forever young in faith; never challenged, never thinking differently. It's quite an impoverished position to be in, because at the end of the day, we deny ourselves some quite profound and life changing perspectives on life and on faith.
When did we become so cut off from each other as Christians that we have made each other the enemy? When did we get so arrogant in our opinions that we denied what others had to say before they even opened their mouths. How did I get to a point where I could dismiss what might just turn out to be my future wife after one theological discussion? I really hope that I am able to stop counting out what God might have to say to me, what he might have in store for me because of my own ignorance and my own prejudices.
Me and Ellie were brought up in very different traditions of Christianity. These days I prefer to avoid the labels, but if it helps she came from quite a 'Conservative Evangelical' background. My background is typically more 'Charismatic'. Before I got to know people who thought differently to me, I pretty much thought they were wrong. That they didn't have much to offer, and that I did things the 'right way round'. They were loopy conservatives who took the Bible too literally, thought the holy spirit was dead and stood on street corners condemning people to hell.
There's such an arrogance in that. For years, I have sat comfortably in my own opinions, read books by people I agreed with, listened to talks from people that from the same school of thinking as me. And pretty much all that does is confirms your own thinking. It narrows your mind. I had been so caught up in 'Christianity as told by Josh Cockayne' that I had little room for the opinions of a girl with something vastly different to say.
The problem with that is that you close yourself off to anything valuable that other people, and other schools of thinking have to offer. It's so easy to scoff, to criticise, to pick holes in people's theology. It's easy to say that Conservative Christians are nutjobs and that Charismatics are wet and spineless. It's so easy to spend all of our time squabbling over the right way to do things, and the right way to read this passage. What's difficult, and what I'm trying to learn to do more and more is to recognise the good that people have to offer. To take my head from out of my own bum and allow myself to try learning from people who might be able to teach me something new. It's really hard to break prejudices, opinions that have been lodged for so long. It's hard to see past someone's theology, the way someone reads the Bible and to listen to what they actually have to say.
What I'm not endorsing is unanimous relativism, the thinking that says "everyone is right in their own way". I'm not even saying we shouldn't disagree with people. I just think we could try and understand people a bit better. I know for me, I often judge what someone has to say before they even speak, before I even open the first page of their book. It's valuable to be able to disagree with someone for what they actually have to say. And actually, we might learn something from them. We might actually find they've got a point.
I've learnt a lot since I said "never let me marry Eleanor Matthews". I think we both have. I think I'm still pretty caught up in my own prejudices. I get unreasonably defensive any time I'm challenged. But I think that I'm definitely more open to being taught. At the end of the day, all Conservative Christians are not nutjobs. I still disagree with a lot of what they think, but I have a deep respect for Christians with the consistency to follow through what they believe and what they think God requires of them. I think I can learn a lot from that.
I am wrong quite a lot of the time. I know that. I reckon that most 'breeds', boxes', 'denominations', (whatever you want to call them) of Christianity have flaws in their thinking. I think most of them have plenty wrong with them. I think some are probably closer to 'truth' than others. But importantly, I think we can learn something about God from all of them. The minute that I'm not prepared to listen to what someone else has to say, I've missed out on something vital I could learn from them. At the end of the day, I don't want to be a 'Charismatic Christian', I don't want to be liberal, or evangelical. I want to be able to follow Christ. I don't want to be comfortable in the box I started off in, I don't want to have the same opinions in ten years time as I have now. I want to be in a position to constantly be challenged, be rebuked, be wrong. I want to be in a position to learn from John Piper, Rob Bell, Brian McClaran, John Stott, whoever the next liberal/ conservative pinup boy might be. I'm pretty sure they've all got something to teach me.
I think we'll only gain real maturity in faith when we start to know what we really think about things, what we really believe, when we're able to learn from people who think differently. If we just feed ourselves the same, unchallenging, belief embedding content we've always heard, then I think there's the risk that we stay forever young in faith; never challenged, never thinking differently. It's quite an impoverished position to be in, because at the end of the day, we deny ourselves some quite profound and life changing perspectives on life and on faith.
When did we become so cut off from each other as Christians that we have made each other the enemy? When did we get so arrogant in our opinions that we denied what others had to say before they even opened their mouths. How did I get to a point where I could dismiss what might just turn out to be my future wife after one theological discussion? I really hope that I am able to stop counting out what God might have to say to me, what he might have in store for me because of my own ignorance and my own prejudices.